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What's the Best Redistricting Plan?

The Winchester School Committee meets tonight to discuss redistricting plans, and Winchester Patch wants to know which is your favorite.

 

The Winchester School Committee is meeting tonight to discuss the redistricting plans.

The meeting was moved to the Winchester High School auditorium and will start at 7:30 p.m.

The revised map-based proposals from the Redistricting Advisory Committee as well as the alternative plans will be up for discussion.

The RAC has five options for redistributing approximately 200 elementary school students between the schools in the next two years. Enrollment projections from the New England School Development Council helped in the development of these proposed models.

Parents also submitted five alternate plans in response to RAC's request for feedback from the public after concerns were raised from Superintendent William McAlduff's intial recommendations to the School Committee. The five plans consist of the Advanced Learning Opportunities PlanKindergarten Flex PlanOpen Enrollment PlanBuffer Zone Plan #2 and Buffer Zone Plan #1.

Which plan do you think is best? Vote in our poll below and explain your pick in the comments.

The RAC is responsible for creating and presenting plans for redistricting the elementary school attendance boundaries. The RAC, established in November 2011, spent the remainder of the year and 2012 collecting feedback and suggestions.

The RAC and superintendent oversee recommendations made to the School Committee. The Committee makes the final decision related to enrollment recommendations.

McAlduff will make his recommendation at the Oct. 23 meeting. The School Committee plans to vote on a plan Nov. 5.

Recommendations for redistricting changes will be effective at the beginning of the 2013-2014 academic year.

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  • What is the best redistricting plan for Winchester?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • One of the five Redistricting Advisory Committee models (Explain which one in the comments below.)
        6 (18%)
    • Advanced Learning Opportunities Plan
        8 (25%)
    • Kindergarten Flex Plan
        17 (53%)
    • Open Enrollment Plan
        0 (0%)
    • Buffer Zone Plan No. 1
        1 (3%)
    • Buffer Zone Plan No. 2
        0 (0%)
    Total votes: 32
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Redistricting, Winchester School Committee, Winchester schools, and redistricting advisory committee

Dennis France

12:24 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The ALO plan, when properly implemented, will elevate the quality of education for all, while removing the negative feeling from MAP-based plansthat people are being forced to drive their kids to more distant schools. We shouldn't forget that humans like to be masters of their own destinies and we should be mindful that we elected this school committee. They are there to serve our needs and not the other way around.

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Michele Walsh

1:23 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The plan that best serves the goal of equality between the town's schools is KFlex. It offers a solution to the most pressing issue, overcrowding, and it is the only plan that offers both finality (in the sense that we are unlikely to face redistricting again in the not too distant future) & flexibility (because our biggest problem has been predicting future enrollment). It takes the away the ugliness of pitting one school against eachother, whether that results from a school choice-type plan or from a redistricting map that rips families away from schools (1) in which they are already invested and (2) that their neighbors attend. Moreover, it's fair because it takes the burden of redistricting off the backs of the families who unfortunately find themselves in "bubbles" or "buffer zones" and puts it on everyone. Redistricting needs to happen and it is more palatable when we share the sacrifice.

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outsidein

3:51 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I actually like the K-flex plan the least of any of the plans presented. It makes kindergarten students transfer for 2 years in a row to multiple schools, so it essentially says their contributions to their school is irrelevant and shoves them where-ever there is an open desk. Even more troubling is that VO and Lynch would each have 5-6 kindergarten classes. That means 120 students will be shuffling in and out of these schools every single year. That is creating a HUGE transient student population which will really impact each of these school's PTOs, events, organization, costs, and the other 300 students that attend each school. Given the concern expressed by Lynch parents about changes to their school and the impact on them, I would think this plan would really be harmful to Lynch.

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Rita

4:17 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Reply to Outsidein: please read the facts before making comments. For example, KG students get transferred for 1 year ONLY, then they go back to their home schools. Besides, there is a chance they might not be moved depending on the criteria finalized by the superintendent for how to select which KG students to be moved from overcapacity schools to undercapacity school for a particular year.

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outsidein

4:35 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Thanks for the comment Rita. My comment on transferring twice referred to transferring once into kindergarten and a second time into first grade. I should have stated that more clearly. That said, I think my comments on the churn at VO and Lynch are accurate. Even if you assume VO and Lynch kindergarteners attend those schools, you still have 80-100 kids that will transfer out each year. That's about 25% of school population every year. That seems like a bad idea to me.

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Michele Walsh

6:02 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I appreciate the comments, outsidein. A couple quick points, which may be better addressed at tonight's meeting by the plan's authors. There is unlikely to be quite so much shifting, as the numbers can be manipulated (the beauty of the flex), as I understand it, to ensure 1-2 classes of kindergarten classes at each school. These students would not then shift for first grade, others would simply join them. The concerns you express may also be eased somewhat by looking to the Lynch preschool model. Students of the preschool become part of that student body each year for 1 or perhaps 2 yrs, participate in the school and PTO, then transition out. Also, thank you for the special attn paid to Lynch in your comments. As a Lynch parent, I've actually concluded that it does the least harm. None are perfect, but it is the most reasonable, in my opinion. Lynch gains 60 students under all scenarios.

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Michele Walsh

6:02 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I appreciate the comments, outsidein. A couple quick points, which may be better addressed at tonight's meeting by the plan's authors. There is unlikely to be quite so much shifting, as the numbers can be manipulated (the beauty of the flex), as I understand it, to ensure 1-2 classes of kindergarten classes at each school. These students would not then shift for first grade, others would simply join them. The concerns you express may also be eased somewhat by looking to the Lynch preschool model. Students of the preschool become part of that student body each year for 1 or perhaps 2 yrs, participate in the school and PTO, then transition out. Also, thank you for the special attn paid to Lynch in your comments. As a Lynch parent, I've actually concluded that it does the least harm. None are perfect, but it is the most reasonable, in my opinion. Lynch gains 60 students under all scenarios.

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outsidein

7:13 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Thanks Michele. I will continue to listen and learn about all plans. 1-2 k classes per school is fine but I don't see how that is possible. There has to be more kids into VO and Lynch. The authors presentation on 10/2 showed 6 k classes at VO and 5 at Lynch. So that is probably 80-100 each year. And it's not a one time transition. That's 80-100 new students at Lynch and VO every single year.As I know you are, pay close attention to the number of k classes in each school. That is essentially a transient population every single year.

BAV

2:39 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Any of the RAC map plans would be preferable (or another map if the SC decides to adjust further). With the exception of the ALO, the remaining plans are unacceptable. Each pits neighbor against neighbor in vying for school seats and keeps uncertainty in the school system for years to come. They ensure that bitterness will endure.

I do think that the ALO has great potential if used IN ADDITION to redistricting and is started in each and every school. Alone, it is inadequate to handle the redistricting needs and might not assist in the filling of VO. In the worst case, if it is too popular, it would exclude bright children based on the location of their residence. (And at that point we would again need to redistrict to ensure that all could have this option.) I also think we should discuss the effects on the other schools if the brightest 20% from each school is removed. Is the education my child gets truly the same?

No matter what, I honestly believe that the SC will do what is in the best interests of the town and our children. I am certain that they realize that they serve everyone in town, not just those who speak the loudest or the most frequently.

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Suburbanmama

10:46 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Agree with outsidein about KFlex, it seems like a potential mess to have all those youngest kids moved. Why have all of our youngest students all over the town? (many of whom would have older siblings in a different school). Remember too if a child has to go to a school the parents haven't chosen and live more than 2 miles away, the 5 year old child then needs to be bused by the taxpayer. ALO is an interesting idea and might work but agree with BAV's concerns that the program would need to be looked at carefully. I think buffer zones make most sense. You still redistrict but you leave some flexibility in the plan. We moved here from Brookline and the buffer zones work fine there.

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BAV

7:28 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

My concern with buffer zones is that it creates a permanent section of town that must annually suffer the the effects of redistricting for the benefit of the rest of the town. In any of the map based models, certain sections of town must move (and others do not move), but it is a one time move and all the children of the neighborhood move together. I would rather know that my children and all their friends were moving than to know that some were and some weren't.

For certain, no child who is being proposed to move in any of the 5 scenarios was even alive when their house was redistricted before. It was 8 years ago when redistricting last took place and none of the houses that were redistricted at that time are proposed to be redistricted this time (Grove St. region of town). So you'd have to go back two redistrictings ago to even have the possibility that a house was affected twice.

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Mike

12:11 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Suburbanmama,
Thank you for your comment. On K-flex. The School committee had brought up bsing costs over the summer. By using both VO and Lynch and leaving at least one class of kindergarteners it is possible to eliminate the need for busing because these two schools are actually close enough to the other three districts that most kindergarteners in town would be within two miles. I hope this helps understand it a little better. I like the ALO plan and buffer zone plans as well. ALO can be combined with other plans as well. The best thing about ALO is that people will be choosing a new school because they will be getting something.

Logic

11:40 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I think school choice seems like a perfect option- everyone gets to choose. Yes some people will not get their first choice- which is going to happen now anyway, and yes it will require some children to be bused- which is going to happen now anyway, but presumably most people will choose neighborhood schools and those who are not near neighborhood schools could choose other schools. The downside is the that the town has to pay for buses if over 2 miles, but is seems like small price to pay for fairness.

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Suburbanmama

9:57 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Mike, I don't understand. Many of the homes in Lincoln and Muraco are more than 2 miles from the other schools. Would these children stay at those two overcrowded schools? So all the kids right next door to the schools would need to drive, but those who are farther away would stay. Doesn't seem right.

BAV, the buffer zones in Brookline seem to work over time ie. most of the kids go to one school unless it becomes overcrowded, then that neighborhood is shifted. It's only during the shift (over a few years) that kids in the neighborhood would go to more than one school. The parents actually seemed to like it there, since they get a limited "choice" but still have neighborhood schools. We lived in a buffer zone.

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Dennis France

10:33 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Good discussion. We shall find out tonight at the WHS auditorium at 7:00 PM which plan(s) Mr McAlduff recommends. Let's hope it reduces the divisiveness that has increased over the summer between those who are impacted by Map-based plans and those who are not.

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outsidein

11:14 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

I agree with you Dennis. Let's also hope that no matter what the Superintendent recommends and the SC ultimately approves, we all recognize that there's no hidden agenda or targeting of particular areas. There is obviously alot of anxiety over redistricting, but I think all the histronics and drama are counter-productive, particularly the mis-information fed to the Globe. Let's keep in mind that all of the decision makers are our neighbors, our children's friends, and are really trying to do the right thing with a very complex, emotional, but necesssary redistricting.

Dennis France

11:54 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Outsidein. Thanks for your empathetic response, but actually I thought the Globe reporter has been doing a very balanced job, interviewing as wide an array of folks as possible (her email has been available since June: Brenda.Buote@gmail.com). In particular, she captured nicely Cindy Bohne's concept of a possible Hybrid Plan (ALO/K-Flex, e.g.) that could obviate the need to ever draw lines again. Also, I'm glad that Ms. Bohne has also brought up the concern about the Washington area being a major construction site (the WHS on one side, a Mega-CVS on the other side.) With 2 of the 3 of the MAP-based plans having these folks changing from walkers to drivers, one could speculate that they are being asked to make a heavier sacrifice than others. Well, the time for debate is over, Mr. Super is no doubt polishing up his Powerpoint presentation and we'll see tonight. All the best!

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